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	<title>Comments on: Zed&#8217;s Rant: Rails is Hate?</title>
	<link>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/</link>
	<description>I'm getting there. What's the rush? It's about the journey, right?</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Joe Grossberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23929</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 22:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23929</guid>
					<description>Ah, interesting. I hadn't thought about it from the "If I'm so wrong to be negative, dismissive, hard to work with, etc. then why are *you* behaving like this?" angle.

P.S. I did not get an email (I checked my Junk folder), but that is fine with me. Email sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, interesting. I hadn&#8217;t thought about it from the &#8220;If I&#8217;m so wrong to be negative, dismissive, hard to work with, etc. then why are *you* behaving like this?&#8221; angle.</p>
<p>P.S. I did not get an email (I checked my Junk folder), but that is fine with me. Email sucks.
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		<title>by: Lou</title>
		<link>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23928</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23928</guid>
					<description>I think it helps to put the comments in the context of the things that Zed has been very vocally and consistently passionate about: namely bad behavior on the Internet, or rather, the tendency to have very different Internet and personal personae. He's not real keen on the disingenuous. 

I think if you look at what he's saying in the totality of his public statements, these statements are completely consistent with what I believe are his heartfelt beliefs, and have a lot less to do with Rails per se, than egregious Internet behavior he has very publicly and consistently criticized in his prior statements. (See &lt;a href="http://savingtheinternetwithhate.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow"&gt;Utu&lt;/a&gt;) for more.) 

I have seen him speak publicly, but don't know him personally. I &lt;b&gt;strongly&lt;/b&gt; suspect a lot if his delivery is to further reinforce, through dark parody, what he thinks is wrong with a lot of the stuff we see in chat rooms, email and blogs. 

He's consistent, publicly in person as well as his Internet communications, in direct contrast to many of the communications he sees from many others. The "over-the-top" delivery is deliberately and ironically something you would normally only see from a lurker hiding behind a cloak of anonymity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it helps to put the comments in the context of the things that Zed has been very vocally and consistently passionate about: namely bad behavior on the Internet, or rather, the tendency to have very different Internet and personal personae. He&#8217;s not real keen on the disingenuous. </p>
<p>I think if you look at what he&#8217;s saying in the totality of his public statements, these statements are completely consistent with what I believe are his heartfelt beliefs, and have a lot less to do with Rails per se, than egregious Internet behavior he has very publicly and consistently criticized in his prior statements. (See <a href="http://savingtheinternetwithhate.com/" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow" rel="nofollow">Utu</a>) for more.) </p>
<p>I have seen him speak publicly, but don&#8217;t know him personally. I <b>strongly</b> suspect a lot if his delivery is to further reinforce, through dark parody, what he thinks is wrong with a lot of the stuff we see in chat rooms, email and blogs. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s consistent, publicly in person as well as his Internet communications, in direct contrast to many of the communications he sees from many others. The &#8220;over-the-top&#8221; delivery is deliberately and ironically something you would normally only see from a lurker hiding behind a cloak of anonymity.
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		<title>by: Joe Grossberg</title>
		<link>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23925</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23925</guid>
					<description>I work on a large Rails dev team (around 20 RoR coders) and reactions here ran the gamut.</description>
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		<title>by: Lou</title>
		<link>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23822</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23822</guid>
					<description>Thanks, Rich. Yes we had a great holiday! 

Zed is a man on a mission, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Rich. Yes we had a great holiday! </p>
<p>Zed is a man on a mission, for sure.
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		<title>by: Rich Manalang</title>
		<link>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23818</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 00:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.louspringer.com/2008/01/01/zeds-rant-rails-is-hate/#comment-23818</guid>
					<description>Hey Lou!  Hope you had a good holiday.  I totally agree with your analysis of Zed's actions.  Though it was entertaining to read his rant, I do wonder how the Rails community is going to react to it.  As with any community that gets large, it begins to mimic the diversity of real life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lou!  Hope you had a good holiday.  I totally agree with your analysis of Zed&#8217;s actions.  Though it was entertaining to read his rant, I do wonder how the Rails community is going to react to it.  As with any community that gets large, it begins to mimic the diversity of real life.
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